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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Aug 8, 2011 9:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: TDIH

Where were you when you got the word???

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Poster: mush72 Date: Aug 9, 2011 5:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

I've told my 8/9/95 story dozens of times. It was my 23rd birthday.

I was at work in the morning when an summer intern came in and said "Did you hear that Jerry Garcia died?"

Since I didn't know him very well, I dismissed it as either a rumor or someone just playing a work prank (since there weren't many Deadheads where I work).

Later that day, I was walking to lunch and walked by a delivery truck with its radio blaring. Ripple was playing. I remember distinctly pausing and thinking "that's never on the radio...ever. Why is that playing?!" Denial was starting to fade to reality.

About mid-afternon, I get a call from my older brother who was about as anti-Dead as you could get...I was tortured by Journey and Meatloaf in my youth. It was painful.

"Did you hear what happened (in obvious reference to Jerry)?" he asked.

"Yeah, but not from a reliable source." I replied.

"I just saw it on two separate news broadcasts," he said.

As much as he wasn't into the Dead, I've always appreciated that he called me when he heard the news.

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Poster: WillCo Date: Aug 9, 2011 8:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

I think I posted about this before. My wife and I were on holiday with our ten-year-old daughter in the peaceful village of Banyalbufar, Mallorca.

During the late '80s my interest in GD had waned a bit (after having bought and disliked Built To Last, and having read about how unpleasant the "parking lot scene" had become); but then came One From The Vault, the Garcia/Grisman collaborations and the early Dick's Picks - and I was hooked again.

So I took some tapes with me to Mallora, including One From The Vault and '73 Maples Pavilion. I'd had a dumb but greatly enjoyable dream during the night of 8th-9th August, which centred on the discovery of a huge store full of Grateful Dead live recordings, posters etc., but then woke to BBC's World Service news that Jerry had died.

I spent as much time as I could that day alone with my tapes. On returning home I went straight to the local library and photocopied all the newspaper obituaries. I have them still, but have always been too heartbroken to look at them again.

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Aug 9, 2011 6:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

I was on Oahu, Hawaii, of all places, visiting my sister who used to live there. My dad came in with a copy of the SF Chronicle, and I think they all knew to break the news to me gently. I remember feeling shocked, but I was also weirdly unemotional about it at first. They left me alone for a few minutes, and I do believe that a tear came to my eye at one point (which I quickly brushed away).

At some point it dawned on me that the awful show I'd seen at Soldier Field that summer was the last Grateful Dead show EVER; that I had somehow be fortunate enough to see the FINAL Grateful Dead show. I took some solace in that simple fact and went on with my vacation. For years after that I hardly ever listened to the Dead. It just felt like something that I needed to leave behind me.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Aug 9, 2011 6:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

An friend called and woke me from a nap with the news. The conversation was short, and there was a part of me that hung up thinking maybe they'd heard it wrong, that maybe it was just another rumor. But when I flipped on the radio and they were playing "He's Gone"- a song I'd never heard on the radio in my life - I knew it was true.

I could say I was hit hard by the news, but that would be a lie. At that point I hadn't been to a show since 1991 and really wasn't listening to the Dead very often (read: almost never). The fun had been drained from it for me; I found the shows to be rather empty experiences, with audiences clearly more focused more on rock star idol worship and celebrations of their own hedonistic sense of entitlement than anything to do with a musical experience. So at the time Jerry's death seemed more like a distant epilogue to me that the end of an active narrative, kind of like finding out an old college friend you lost touch with years ago has passed away. A fleeting tinge of sadness and nostalgia, maybe, and then quickly back to the business of daily life. It wasn't until the turn of the century that I really began listening to the Dead with any degree of regularity again.

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Poster: Juan Peligro Date: Aug 9, 2011 6:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

Was Living in Chandler Az with wife and 2 kids. It was a very hot humid morning. Heard the news on radio. Stunned...denial...at a total loss...like a brother had died...Local radio station (no longer on air) played GD / JGB for next 18 hours. Friends were at work/sleeping. Remember hardly anyone had cellphones..email or wwww ...didn't go to work that day...listened to radio and tapes all day with friends...Heads in Phoenix held a candlelight vigil on "Hole in the Rock" mountain in Papago Park...Life changed that day...

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Aug 9, 2011 9:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

I was in rehab (court ordered)when I got the news from a friend.
I had a court case that kept dogging me , I wanted so much to take care of it , so I could be free to travel and see the band for one more tour.
I took the news kinda hard and when I asked if I could have a pass to go to his memorial I was told they were only issued for the death of a family member. jerry's music was as much family as I had ever known . I was crushed .
I would have done anything to change the news that day , but I knew at that moment that I couldnt stay at the rehab facility , and i knew if I left (or violated my release by getting high)I would face 2 years of prison .
It's funny how at times tragedy can turn into blessings because after a short bit of "what would jerry do" thinking, I got a short pass from the facility and got totally loaded w/ stash I had (just for emergencies lol), and went back to the rehab center to face the results of my actions.
They were swift in coming and as promised by the judge I was soon serving 2 years in in a state facilitiy .
The blessing in all this , is while incarcerated i met a friend who after our release in in late 1997 introduced me to my future wife , we married in 2000 and have have 3 beautiful children, and I have never known happiness like I have experienced the past 11 years. I have never had another epeisode w/ the law and have settled down considerably. But Jerrys music and the music of the Grateful Dead has been a source of joy for my entire family. When i see my 2 year old start to dance when I play a China/Rider i know Jerry is watching and smiling down .
I spent alot of my 2 years regretting my actions,and even more in prayer asking for a new life. I can say that rewards are not always quick to materialize , and sometimes maybe not at all . But faith and kindness has its rewards, and Jerry in his own way showed me that.

Bless you Jerry !

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 9, 2011 6:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

That's a pretty cool story.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 8, 2011 10:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

It's already Aug 9 here, so I'll start.

I was about 20 minutes from where I live now, sitting on my couch, reading the English language newspaper, when the story jumped out at me. It was a story on an inside page.

I was pregnant and I recall feeling stunned -- not surprised, exactly, since it had seemed inevitable, but just stunned by the finality -- and sad that I'd never get to bring my baby to a show. Which I probably wouldn't have done anyway; it's not really much like me, and I hadn't seen a show since '92 anyway. But I'd always liked the picture.

It actually would have been the 10th or the 11th, since he died before 4 a.m.-ish CA time, which would be 3 p.m.-ish Aug 9 here, so it wouldn't have made the papers right away ... and we had no TV, even if it had somehow been on the local news (which was unlikely).

Trying to decide what to do today to mark it. Certainly take a walk to the Bagmati, the holy (if stinky) river that feeds into the Ganges where some of the ashes were ultimately tossed in that odd, very un-Jerry-ish and yet weirdly cool (to me) decision. A Black Muddy River indeed. At the moment, waiting for the black ominous rainclouds to clear ...

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Poster: snori Date: Aug 9, 2011 1:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

I'd just got home from work when my brother-in-law phoned with the news. I guess I wasn't entirely shocked - we were aware that he was an unhealthy guy, but the evening just grew more and more sorrowful as calls were exchanged with Deadhead friends here in the U.K.

So now my colleagues are having to put up with how I want to remember him today, beginning with JGB in Seattle 1976-03-06.

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Poster: wineland Date: Aug 9, 2011 7:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

An excellent choice that everyone should hear. Do not trade lossy files, they're only for personal consumption. Even those that are AUD-adverse will be able to appreciate this fine recording.
http://tinyurl.com/4xvufhc

Jerry Garcia - guitar, vocals
John Kahn - bass
Keith Godchaux - keyboards
Donna Jean Godchaux - backing vocals
Ron Tutt - drums


Attachment: jgb76-03-06.txt

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 9, 2011 8:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

Works for me!!

holy cow - the Catfish John is perfection. It's like a hymn. Can't think of a better way to remember Jerry.

This post was modified by ringolevio on 2011-08-09 15:32:55

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Poster: wineland Date: Aug 9, 2011 8:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

I began listening to it again this morning and thought the same thing. The mood was very tranquil and introspective in Catfish John and Russian Lullaby. Enjoy the rest of the show.

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 9, 2011 12:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

This is a phenomenal show!

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 9, 2011 9:01am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

I love '76 JGB.
Hm, it isn't seeming "tranquil" to me exactly, but maybe that's owing to the high volume at which I'm playing it ...

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Poster: wineland Date: Aug 9, 2011 12:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

Hah, you're right, tranquil may be a bit much. Given the context, I was at work focusing on JGB and not trying to sell the same thing for the thousandth time, it was a world apart from my usual morning. Let's go with me being the tranquilized. How sweet it is...

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Poster: rastamon Date: Aug 9, 2011 12:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

the best JGB Show I have in my rotation >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4vKtjSgPlM

Amazing to find a whole show on youtube

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Poster: wineland Date: Aug 9, 2011 1:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

I whole-heartedly second that emotion. Hands down my favorite Jerry show. The energy is incredible. Donna and Maria are spot on. The song selection is just right for my tastes. Nice and clear sound.

Have you heard the official release? Thoughts, comments?

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Poster: rastamon Date: Aug 10, 2011 8:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

A commercial release of that show? News to my fleeting memory!

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Poster: user unknown Date: Aug 10, 2011 7:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

Pure Jerry 6

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Aug 9, 2011 6:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

Great show to remember him by!!
It was just introduced to me within the last couple of weeks. Excellent choice.
I am spending my day at work listening to, from beginning to end, the All Good Things box set.

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Aug 8, 2011 11:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

>At the moment, waiting for the black ominous rainclouds to clear ...

How fitting that is I suppose. A very sad day indeed, it must be quite a bit harder for you folks who actually got to see them I'm sure. But I feel fortunate to have even discovered his genius at all.

I don't think I actually knew that some of his ashes were dumped in the Ganges until I found out from you. This wasn't his wish apparently; who decided it would be appropriate?

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Poster: Highwater_Henry Date: Aug 8, 2011 11:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

I think it was Bobby and Phil's decision to put half of the ashes in the Ganges. I think they took half of em in spite of Mountain Girl's wishes they not. I believe the other half was dumped into the San Francisco Bay, maybe. Feel free to correct me.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Aug 8, 2011 11:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

Deborah Koons. I gather that, from her perspective, they'd been planning to make a trip to India where she'd have done filmmaking, so it made some kind of sense to her, and Bob went along with it.

There's a neat philosophy behind the concept. All Hindu bodies are cremated and the ashes, ideally, scattered in a way that will feed into the ocean to join with all ashes of the past and as a recognition of the joining of the soul into the oneness of the cosmic ocean. The sacred Ganges feeds into the ocean and is itself fed by the pure rivers of the Himalayas, which flow from the home on Mt Kailash of Shiva, god of the destruction that is inseparable from creation (and a rather wild character fond of ganja and defying conventions.) Pretty transcendent and all, but I never noticed anything Hindu about Jerry and he never went to India.

Apparently it was actually before the SF Bay ceremony. I didn't realize that until I checked McNally's book just now:

"Early in April 1996 Weir and Deborah went to Benares, India, to scatter a small portion of the ashes in the Ganges. Being a filmmaker, Deborah naturally hired a local film crew to record the proceedings, and news of the event spread swiftly from Indian newspapers to the United States. Though Weir later swore that he had tried to call Annabelle before his departure, the news hit Garcia's daughters and ex-wife, M.G., with a devastating impact, for they were convinced that all the ashes had been strewn and that they'd been totally excluded from the memorial ritual."

GEEZ. Can people communicate worse?!?

The rest of the ashes were scattered about two weeks later, on April 15, 1996. I expect we've all read what an awful scene that was. Phil has a story in his book about some of the ashes apparently ending up on his wife's handkerchief (she'd lent it to someone who'd wiped up ashes that dashed against the boat), and her finding them in her pocket on a school trip to an organic farm and burying them there. So the last ashes ended up, I guess, feeding a garlic field.

May the four winds blow you safely home ...




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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Aug 9, 2011 5:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: scattered like lost words

This is part of a report from the Independent, a British newspaper, dated April 8 1996:


Garcia was cremated soon after his death last August but for Mr Weir that ceremony had been too public, too garish. "That was for Jerry the star. Not for my brother," he said. The idea of sprinkling Garcia's ashes in the Ganges came to him in a dream. Weir said he dreamt of a smiling and gnomish-looking Garcia who was wearing purple robes, floating above a river. Mr Weir next dreamt of himself doused with paint that made him invisible before his dead friend. "Jerry was too humble a guy to ever say put my ashes in the river, but I knew that's what he meant," Mr Weir told a friend. "Jerry wasn't saying anything in the dream, but he had that happy expression of his on his face." Weir took his suggestion to the other Dead members and to Garcia's wife, and they agreed.

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After the immersion, Mr Weir, in his fifties, returned to Delhi. Waiting in a hotel for his flight back to the US, Mr Weir, with his short, grey hair, looked like a weary, middle-aged businessman who dreaded the gruelling flight ahead of him. He did not want to talk to the press about Garcia's last, strange trip. "There's nothing to say - the Grateful Dead is over," Mr Weir said.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: Aug 9, 2011 6:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

I saw some interview with Bobby where he said it was his decision to put the ashes in the Ganges - he had a dream where Jerry told him to or something.

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Poster: polarized blue Date: Aug 9, 2011 1:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDI Very Sad H (Aug 9, 1995)

In the driveway. My housemate (and also drummer in my band and a lifelong friend since age 6) was just heading to work when I was just getting home with my 2 brothers. The news was just coming in on his car radio- he had heard it an hour before. We all went to spend the summer in Valentine, Nebraska to "woodshed". We were just starting the band up and had an offer to stay at a friend's cattle ranch with studio space in a converted barn. We drove our 1971 GMC Schoolbus RV cross country from Florida to New Hampshire to meet up with the drummer and also to get repairs done on the bus before heading West. My brothers had jobs cutting and raking the hay on the ranch, and my friend and I had chef jobs at a local steak house. On Aug 9th, we had all just been on a staff and friends trip to innertube 7 miles down the Niobrara River and what a fun day that was probably about 20 of us all together. Also from the pickup place most of us rode on the back of the trailer with the innertubes through the sandhills and a wild buffalo herd preserve. Our drummer friend raced home ahead of us to get ready for work as we helped put away the tubes and have a beer. It was good fun that day, only to be followed by the sad and tragic news of Jerry's passing. We had all been to a few shows through the years, but I was the one who had a bigger tape collection. I can't remember right now which tapes we listened to, but I know for my part there were a few tears when I thought about the loss to the world of music, to the band and all the deadheads. I have a lot of happy memories of the shows I saw and also of listening to all those tapes with my circle of friends early in the morning to late, late at night. The last song I heard them play was Brokedown Palace, and sometimes when I hear a good version it still hits me in a soft spot of my heart.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Aug 9, 2011 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

http://www.archive.org/post/141384/august-9-1995-where-were-you-when-you-heard-the-news



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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 9, 2011 9:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVdTQ3OPtGY&;mode=related&search=

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Poster: craven714 Date: Aug 9, 2011 12:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

always a welcomed version. thx
If I knew the way, I would take you home...

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Aug 9, 2011 1:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

yeah, it's hard to beat.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Aug 9, 2011 12:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Banjo Moon, Tye Dye Sky

Sorry, busy day yesterday, trying to catch up.

Sitting in a Filiberto's drive through, looking forward to a monster carne asada burrito, about 110 degrees out. DJ comes on with the news. Immediately decided to pass on the burrito-bomb. Got news that a candlelight vigil was going to take place in the rocky hills outside the Phoenix Botanical Gardens. Attended the vigil and met many kind people. Much easier to share pain with like-minded people. Oddly enough, that gathering left me with a very positive feeling. Yes, sad that the Fat Man was gone (but not really suprised), but also encouraged that his music was still touching people in such a profound way.

Warren said it best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSkxYqVpKYE

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Poster: user unknown Date: Aug 10, 2011 7:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Banjo Moon, Tye Dye Sky

"Warren said it best"

yes he did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlYmXk2SN9Q

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 9, 2011 6:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

Sorry, not "big" enough to know where I was, etc., but probably in a car, and heard it on the radio...I did do two things. First, I made a tape of Garcia DEAD tunes, to play for the kids/family/myself, which I still have...though no tape player to play it on. Second, I put my fav pic of Jerry with Mtn Girl, the one we all know, in which they are sitting on the ground looking up, she has short hair, Jerry beardless, in 67-68 or so, on my lab door where it has remained ever since...the only such adornment. I think only one person has known "who" they are in all these past 16 yrs...

That's all I got.

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Aug 9, 2011 10:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

I always loved that pic- possibly, I think, because of the lack of "Dead-ness". No crowd, no instruments, no crew or skulls or hangers-on. Just a guy and his chick chilling out.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 9, 2011 10:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: TDIH

Here it is, I think, and another from same day...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23495161@N05/3442175823/

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